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Bacci40: Neither photography nor videotaping is molestation. How is listing LS productions aiding and abetting? The "issue" at Wikipedia is documenting all human knowledge. Zebruh 16:08, 14 February 2006 (UTC) For inclusion in this list, pornographic magazines must be, or have been, widely available as a printed publication and contain either hardcore or softcore pornographic images. Jimbo's comment has also deeply confused me, as of all people, I would never expect him to respond in such direct opposition to so many of Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. But those things can be disputed, and when it comes to such a controversial subject as this, I will respect Jimbo's opinion. Besides, he is founder. I mention his reaction to Drew, who seems perplexed. “If you think there was something sexual about that, then there’s something wrong with you,” she says. “And you obviously haven’t been to a dance competition.”
I have been especially impressed by Wikipedia's core values and guidelines of conduct. Respect is extremely important to me. Also, the potential value judgments about content (professionally lit and happy girls) have been removed, until some way to verify them can be found. Blueboy (Global Media Group, U.S.: 1975 - 3 issues; July/August 1975–August/September 1977 - bimonthly; November 1977 – 2007 - monthly) a b c d "Под видом модельного агентства для детей в Харькове работала порностудия"[Under the guise of a modeling agency for children, a porn studio worked in Kharkov]. rusawm.com. 12 August 2004. Archived from the original on 10 January 2008 . Retrieved 13 August 2023. LS Dreams had girls doing everyday activities, but LS Magazine had a definite raunchy side. There was a lot of talk about this set, particularly the blonde girl who definitely had a great time. Most of the issue is artistic, however.
Mums say they boost self-esteem. Critics say they sexualise kids. We visit the bling-filled frontline of children's beauty pageants.
Men (Specialty Media, U.S., monthly, October 1997 – November 2009), began as Advocate Men in June 1984 In 2005, according to part 3 of Art. 301 of the Criminal Code of Ukraine ("import, manufacture, sale and distribution of pornographic items"), the organizer of the agency "Alex Model" faced a sentence of 3 to 7 years in prison. [12] Then you could identify and list the themes and topics that the LS phenomenon involves and relates to (with links to other Wiki entries which explain them in more detail). All of these are highly emotive and hotly contested, so how can you possibly deal with this in the factual and neutral manner of an encyclopedia? By typing: "These issues are highly emotive and hotly contested". On the definition of 'child pornography', for example:
Drum (U.S., 1964–1967), December 1965 issue was the first U.S. magazine to show male frontal nudity
I removed this on the grounds there is no ref, and it has been questioned. I'm not saying it's wrong, but could someone find a ref and cite it before you replace it? I appreciate you're cooperation in understanding these things, right or wrong, still need refs. Thanks. -- DanielCD 03:11, 24 March 2006 (UTC) Do the external links contain illegal images? // paroxysm (n) 02:58, 29 January 2006 (UTC) I don't know whether they are legal (besides, legality is not consistent across the globe), but there are pictures of very beautiful young girls who are obviously content and happy. Many are nude, but I haven't seen any images in the The LS-Forum or the The LS-Models links that I would call lascivious. Zebruh 20:52, 29 January 2006 (UTC) Definitions vary widely across time, cultures and national jurisdictions. Many argue (e.g. Judith Levine) that in the USA and UK the legal limits are unclear and dependent on the highly subjective interpretation of judges and juries, in which massive influence wielded by expert witnesses is almost never contested (trust me, I'm a shrink); and these interpretations together with a host of new laws, are constantly shifting in a conservative direction at the behest of 'political correctness', certain feminist groups, children's charities such as NCH, and tabloid populism." a b c d ИСРАФИЛОВА, ЮЛИЯ (4 October 2011). "Дело «Алекс-модел»: киевский педофил-растлитель, организатор порносъемок - миллионер и на свободе"[Case of "Alex Model": Kiev pedophile molester, organizer of porn filming - a millionaire and at large]. УКРАЇНА КРИМІНАЛЬНА (in Ukrainian) . Retrieved 13 August 2023. Criminal group involves 1,500 underage Ukrainian girls in porn business with parents' knowledge". Pravda. 6 April 2005. Archived from the original on 18 October 2007.
It is ridiculous to compare the work of LS-Studios that of the pornography industry. So called soft-core porn is classified as such based upon the parts of the body visible and what those body parts are doing. The premise how ever is the same throughout. They pit females in degrading roles subject to phallic fornications. Its end is a restrained prostitution. If it is something other than this it is traditionally classified as art. LS captures the sexuality of young girls professionally and tastefully. The attention to the entertainment value does not detract from it as an artistic work. Familiarity with art or smut does not factor into the premise of objections only arguments of objectors. Threat is perceived from girls sexuality, from the fact that they can be and are naked without embarrassment, from an approach to presenting sexuality that is based on beauty rather than vulgarity, and fear of a denuded inadequacy in the American justice system namely the FBI and its prior standing errors.Despite extensive surveillance and eventually the arrest of various "Alex Model" employees across Ukraine, the legal outcome was lenient. Most involved were given suspended sentences. Alexander N. was held several months in a pre-trial detention center and was released. [8] [13] See also [ edit ] I would like to continue to contribute to Wikipedia, and to get along with the current community. Can someone explain to me what part of my entries above are trolling? I need to know so I won't do it again. Here is my dilemma: I believe it would be "easily verifiable by any reasonable adult without specialist knowledge" that LS photography is high quality and that the girls are always very happy. But who would dare say that they had verified such claims by looking at LS content?
Third, editorial work in Wiki falls to those who are willing to do the research and report on it. It's a volunteer job. If you don't want to do the job and review the sources, then you should edit something else. You can't dispute facts simply because you don't want to visit the library and look them up, or because your library doesn't have the right books, or won't let you look at them. Let somebody do it who can. 194.177.100.34 19:19, 26 March 2006 (UTC) The following is a list of gay pornographic magazines, with country of publication and approximate period of publication, where available: Operating predominantly in Kyiv with branches in cities like Kharkiv and Simferopol, the agency, named "Alex Model" ( Ukrainian: Алекс-Модел), was identified as one of the major producers and distributors of child pornographic content which was branded under several names throughout the world using "LS" abbreviature as LS-Models, LS-Magazine, LS-Girls, LS-Studio, LS-Island, LS-Land, LS-Dreams, LSMODELCLUB (LS Model Club). The leaders attracted minors with the prospect of modeling opportunities, only to involve them in illicit activities. [2]
I've removed the label "child pornography" because it implies depictions of sexual acts, which are not present in LS content. I want to press pause, stop the show. I want to tell them, “ You are only 12; there’s plenty of time and, frankly, the hair, the nails, the make-up, it’s a burden. Why carry it so early?” a b c "2005 Country Report on Human Rights Practices in Ukraine". United States Department of State. 2005. Archived from the original on 7 April 2006 . Retrieved 7 April 2006. The operations of the Kyiv-based porn studio came to close law enforcement agencies stopped its operations. As part of the subsequent investigation, the Alex Model agency in Kharkov was discovered. [2]
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