IB Yes. That’s also why for me it is so nice to study at the Vatican Library. All these things which are important for me really have been around already for 500 years. Making books is the most stable medium ever, it’s proved its ability to share information. I think that making a book is a controlled act like a painting or video work, it’s an integral cultural part of our society. And therefore I think that books should also be treated like that. The book is a part of our knowledge and so the book needs attention. Depending on what the content of the book is, it has to have a specific size or it has a weight, or it has volume or there's a specific structure. That's all very important. IBWell, when he saw my work, he said: “You belong to the fine art department.” So I didn’t go to the Arnhem Art School, I went to the AKI Academy of Art and Design which was a totally radical and crazy school, famous for art but also applied arts.

Camhi, Leslie (March 31, 2011). "A Career Woven From Life". The New York Times . Retrieved April 2, 2019.IB I had come from an art school which was totally crazy so it was good for me to see another world. I was given loads of freedom there, I immediately became a designer – not a junior designer – I was a designer. La Biennale di Venezia - Artists". www.LaBiennale.org. Archived from the original on June 29, 2017 . Retrieved February 22, 2017. IB It’s what, for me, is really important. To be able look at these books and try to understand why people did things, it's interesting to see what happened to the book through these times and how the book got commercialised. Because it wasn’t initially a commodity, it was for sharing information. And the book became something way more democratic. That’s absolutely for sure. It’s very exciting to realise. IB You should never make a book for now. You should make a book with knowledge and as a reference for the future. The value of the book only rises because it’s this container of thoughts bound together in this is unchangeable entity. I think it’s super important that it’s unchangeable. It’s a thought. It’s a moment in time captured, like taking a photo, or making a painting, but with so much more information. It’s so valuable to humankind, for being alive and to reflect on what we are doing.

Muzeja savremene umetnosti, Belgrade; Museum of Art, Skopje, Macedonia; Museum of Contemporary Art, Dubrovnic, Yugoslavia; Biblioteca Americana, Bucharest, RomaniaIB I do if people come to me with certain expectations, that’s really difficult. I can never meet that expectation, it's always wrong. If people already think that I can make a prize-winning book, I can tell you it will never happen, it will always be a disappointment.

She photographed extensively with her Rolleiflex. [9] Her subjects included the architecture of Felix Candela and artists active in Mexico. The Pérez Art Museum Miami holds the artwork Tapestry (1977), an example of her cultural textitle explorations. [10] Pillar of Inquiry/Supple Column". Whitney Museum of American Art. Archived from the original on April 16, 2017 . Retrieved June 26, 2017. INT You said that when you were doing that project, you felt the pressure. Do you feel that same pressure? You’ve been called the Queen of Books – there’s anticipation when you release new work. In 2013, the 18-foot-high Pillar of Inquiry/Supple Column was included in the Whitney Biennal. [14]INT As a designer, you’ve built up a reputation for creating beautifully tactile books. Have you always been interested in objects? So I don’t think about it. I only do the projects I think I should do and I can really work on and people should give me freedom. I always do my best to make something good but you never know. There are so many reasons why things come together to make a project work and there are even more reasons why something becomes a failure. It's difficult.